If I were economic advisor to the Shadow Chancellor ...
... something which I suspect is unlikely to happen, I would be thinking about how one might make an advantage out of his lack of formal economic education, while at the same time conveying a gut-level understanding to my new man of the basis of Keynesian economics. I think I would reason like this:
1. It is a common criticism levelled at politicians of the modern stripe that they have "never had to make a payroll" - ie, that they have no real understanding of how the economy works, because they have never been in a situation of managing a business through tough times.
2. This is also true of Alan Johnson MP, as it is of the Chanceller, George Osborne[1]. However, unlike George Osborne, Alan Johnson has experienced something that's quite like managing a business which needs to make its payroll in a recession, which is called "being poor".
3. When Alan Johnson found himself married with two children at the age of 18, with an income inadequate to his expenses, he did not put his family on an "austerity" programme. Instead, he got a job in the post office, attracted to it by the possibility of well-paid overtime.
4. In general, as anyone who has actually found their household in a situation of having too much debt knows, it's really not usually all that possible to get yourself out of a hole by reducing your expenditure. In general, when you've got an actually serious debt problem, the interest bill is already larger than your discretionary expenses, and so "economising", while it will slow down the rate at which the problem gets worse, will not make it get better.
5. Households which successfully get out of debt, in general, do it by increasing their household income - either by having a non-working partner take on a job, or by doing overtime, or by changing career to something better paid. That's what Alan Johnson did, when he was on his uppers.
Unlike the rather sickening lectures Margaret Thatcher used to give about housewives and their clever domestic scrimping and saving, this is an analogy between the finances of a single household and those of a country which actually works. When you have a debt/GDP ratio which is too high, this is nearly always because the GDP is too low and needs to be increased, not because the debt has got too high and needs to be decreased. If you have a debt/GDP problem that can't be made better by investment and growth, then it's likely that you have a debt/GDP problem that can't be made better at all - ie, you need to default, a situation which the UK is not even nearly in.
A few months in, I'd start showing my man a few straightforward back of the envelope calculations, and maybe even chucking a few debt dynamics finger exercises into his speeches, because I have a canny idea that the man in number 11 is not necessarily in command of his numbers and might be shown up if put in a position of having to do sums in his head (I am guessing that former postmen who have worked with the Byzantine schedule of overtime rates might be quite good at this, plus I seem to remember that Johnson as Work & Pensions Minister did a pretty good number on David Willetts over "the pension crisis", which was a similar combat of neoliberal platitudes versus arithmetic). But the key priority would be to a) get the central intuition lodged into his backbone, and b) set up a sensible and comprehensible counter-narrative to all this dreadful New Austerian nonsense about "money in the kitty" and so on.
If any Labour politicians read this blog, take it, it's yours.
[1] Yes, he was christened "Gideon". But he decided he didn't like the name "Gideon" and changed his name to "George", twenty five years ago. So
This is right, and is one of the best D^2D posts for some time. "Travailler plus pour gagner plus" worked pretty well for Sarko as a rhetorical statement, at least for a nanosecond or two.
ReplyDeleteIts not just that its hard to get your self out of a hole by reducing your expenditure (unless its stupid stuff), but that having more money can improve your cash flow in the long term.
ReplyDeleteThe horrible thing about being poor is that you end up buying goods that you know won't last long, and will cost you more in the long run. You have to have a metre for the energy, which costs more in the long run. You can't afford to invest in energy saving equipment.
The parallels with the economy are left as an exercise for the reader.
Are there any European countries that do need to default?
ReplyDeleteHungary, Ireland, Greece?
"The horrible thing about being poor is that you end up buying goods that you know won't last long, and will cost you more in the long run. You have to have a metre for the energy, which costs more in the long run. You can't afford to invest in energy saving equipment."
ReplyDeleteOtherwise known/summarized/plagiarized/interpreted as the Samuel Vimes "Boots" theory of socio-economic unfairness, no?
Great post, by the way, even if the footnote seems to tail off into
see also this post by Duncan Weldon, which tells the same charming domestic parable, only this time from Gideon's perspective.
ReplyDeletew.r.t. householders in financial dire straits*, the advice "get a job" is usually given by Tories and usually responded to with "there are no jobs!" by lefties. If so, the advice "well, better tighten your belt then" becomes a bit more sensible.
ReplyDeleteCan UK economy just go out and get a better job, metaphorically speaking? I mean, I sympathize with what you're saying here, I'm just not sure that if somebody in government thinks "right, the way out of this mess is to roll up our sleeves up and grow GDP" that they have the means to achieve that. And if they don't, then attempts to would make matters worse.
Of course, even if they don't have a government spending lever to push forward for "full steam ahead", they at least can avoid pulling back on the lever and cutting our way into a second recession. Still, though, I am left unsure of the relationship between the position of the government spending lever (and I guess various switches and buttons which control the types of spending) and GDP growth, tax revenues and the borrowing requirement. Which isn't very helpful I know. But aren't you a bit worried that the go for growth approach might be easier said than done?
* is that the right spelling, when I mean to say "in trouble" and not refer to legends of soft rock?
Can UK economy just go out and get a better job, metaphorically speaking?
ReplyDeleteYes, when there's surplus capacity - this is the point of fiscal policy. Y = C+I+G+X.
I was just going to write "oh bloody hell, can you delete that last comment? which was no more than an expression of vague anxiety"
ReplyDeletenow I see your response ... well fine, if you think the govt can get surplus capacity to work and the effect on growth is large enough to make it all work. Easy peasy.
Me, I facilitate between thinking like that and having moments of doubt.
Madre de Dios this affliction is getting worse. I meant: "vacillate"
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree with your general point, it's also worth remembering that Alan Johnson's "well-paid overtime" might have increased his take home pay by at least 10% and probably quite a bit more. Unfortunately, the UK will be lucky if it can increase its income much more than 2% per year.
ReplyDeleteHow do we get 10% growth? We're back to inflation again, aren't we? I think the govt has pulled a bit of a blinder here, GDP in Q2 10 was 5% higher than a year earlier, and in fact higher than at any time in history. Inflation helped out here quite a bit, and will again this year.
ReplyDeleteI take the point that Alan Johnson could increase his household income a lot more than the UK can, but the UK has a lot more borrowing capacity and a lot lower average interest rate on the debt, so I think the debt dynamics are broadly comparable.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the fact that (speaking from an MMT perspective) the neither the U.K. nor any other sovereign currency issuer is, in fact "in debt" at all, in any real sense. But that's a concept a bit advanced for most political types...
ReplyDeleteI'm probably being dim here, but what does MMT stand for here?
ReplyDeleteModern Monetary Theory.
ReplyDeleteAh what a difference a day makes. On 10/12 you noted that caring about increasing the number of people who grew up poor then went to Oxbridge is totally silly. Now you note that it is actually rather a good thing that the Shadow chancellor was once poor.
ReplyDeleteIf I were shadow chancellor I would have no clue what it is really like to be poor.
The desire to reduce the effect of class on membership in the elite elite is not based on concern for the interests of Alan Johnson etc. It is based on the hope that the policy debate might benefit from a broader range of insights, attitudes and prejudices.
Of course, I must note that the implicit prediction of a major improvement in UK policy in 1990 is contradicted by the data. However it is not contradicted by the data you presented on 10/12.